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Christians Know Who God Is
by Loi_241 inmany of us christians have a good question for you to ask, “who is god?” there are more than six scriptures to share with you.
you know the bible itself a true message for all the people on earth.
the bible explains ‘in the beginning god created everything: heaven, earth, animals, people and everything.’ thus, you notice god created humans, adam and eve.
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Joe Grundy
He's obviously a busy man.
When does he get time for the working girls? Especially if he has to slot them in (so to speak) between drinking beer? Which as all men know causes brewer's droop?
Brewer's droop in itself is a good argument against Intelligent Design. Drink enough beer to overcome inhibitions and find a girl, then get the droop. What deity designed that? Not a benevolent one, that's for sure. But wait! What about Lot? Well, he obviously wasn't normal (quite apart from his grief over his salty wife -who would have guessed that would happen?) but he was able to incestuously copulate with his daughters over a couple of days while blotto.
Not quite sure what moral to take from that story. Be a good man and you don't get the droop? Be a good man and copulate with your daughters (the ones the townspeople didn't want)?
Maybe I need to go to a KH with these questions.
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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley
by cofty inyesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.
on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.
there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.
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Joe Grundy
Quarterback:
I was going to respond to your post but won't, because Cofty will surely be along soon and he can say it better than me.
Only point I'd make re evolution is = it isn't a matter of 'belief', it's a matter of 'acceptance'.
Cheers.
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Joe Grundy
If he's saving his used condoms for 4 years, that;s a bit OCD and would cause concern, and I see what you mean by 'messy problem'. -
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Joe Grundy
"a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh" (sic)
Is there an element of jealousy in OP's post?
(Re. the girls, not the speed).
I know what I'd rather be doing.
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Joe Grundy
33 minutes ago
Diogenesister:
Ha ha Joe...you sure you were never a dub??!!
Poopie...sure he's a hypocrite and all...but the old bills right..his real problem is speed. Talk to him privately and insist he speaks to his local addictions directorate, to be honest the girls are probably connected to the whole " self harm" thing he's got going on. He really needs PROFFESSIONAL HELP BIG TIME. BE A REAL MATE AND HELP HIM GET IT.
And forget the elders
Yes, ma'am, I'm sure I never was a dub. Other things, and definitely was Old Bill. I may have a more liberal view towards working girls than many. I have lived in various places and known quite a few, not always professionally. (Both theirs and mine). I hate to see them disrespected = some conversations, pre-coital, post-coital and some with no coitus at all, have broken my heart (easily done).
Billy Whizz is no true friend to anybody. Trust me on this (though not from direct personal experience, just from dealing with many who took it too far).
If the OP is genuine, he'd do well to advise his 'friend' to save his money for working girls. A better high and you've got company..
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Joe Grundy
PS: If it makes you feel better, think of the working girls as part-time 'concubines' and your associate as a would-be part-time 'Solomon'.
There, problem fixed.
His biggest problem is that he's a baptised dub. THAT'S what he should be working on.
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Joe Grundy
10 prostitutes - 'working girls' sounds better - in four years is fairly infrequent if it's on the basis of once each. Even if it's five times each, that's only about one jump a week. Quite normal, I would have thought and no problem if he can afford it. Probably better for him than going to KH once a week and may work out cheaper.
Drugs are a bigger problem and could cause harm - and be more expensive. That would cause me concern.
But not the business of anyone else, esp. JWs. What are they going to do, counsel him from their experience? Or find some Bronze Age writings which may apply?
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How Corrupt Is WT?
by thedepressedsoul inhow corrupt do you think they are?
if so, in what ways?
i've been compiling my own list and thoughts.
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Joe Grundy
(I never was a JW).
In my professional life I dealt with corruption in the legal sense.
I know that I keep banging on about this (I don't apologise) but I think the ARC proceedings are the best exemplar of corruption in the WT.
Bad as they were, the JW heirarchy are (AFAIK) largely uneducated and unqualified, including Jackson of the GB.
For me, the 'outstanding' (as in outstandingly bad) performance was from Toole, the branch lawyer. He was a qualified lawyer, admitted to practise in Oz. Therefore, he must have some education and professional qualifications. I don't know the outcome of the ARC's referral of him to the regulatory authorities.
His performance was so shockingly bad that either he was completely inept (hard to accept since he was qualified) or he was completely corrupt in the evidence he gave.
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Giant Leak of Offshore Financial Records Exposes Global Array of Crime and Corruption
by JHK inmillions of documents show heads of state, criminals and celebrities using secret hideaways in tax havens... [...].
what about watchtower society's holy money?.
https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160403-panama-papers-global-overview.html?goal=0_ffd1d0160d-4ddea55429-100339089&mc_cid=4ddea55429&mc_eid=bfe834e473.
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Joe Grundy
I spent most of my specialist professional working life looking at this sort of stuff.
I keep an eye on it, and will report stuff as apropriate as I can.